In a surprising exchange that has captivated media circles, ABC chair Kim Williams found himself embroiled in a public spat with Joe Rogan, the world’s leading podcaster, following a recent National Press Club address. Initially unaware of Williams, Rogan has built a massive audience with his podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience, known for its lengthy discussions on diverse subjects including martial arts and drug culture. Williams, a classical music lover and former clarinettist, voiced strong criticism of Rogan, suggesting that his approach exploits societal vulnerabilities and contributes to public uncertainty. He expressed disbelief at Rogan’s influence, describing it as deeply troubling. This comment ignited a media firestorm, leading to reactions from Rogan and tech mogul Elon Musk, who referred to ABC as a form of ‘Pravda’, highlighting concerns over government-funded media. In subsequent statements, Williams defended his views, stating he never intended to offend and was surprised by the backlash he received. This incident has raised questions about the intersection of media influence and public discourse, illustrating the complexities of modern media relations in Australia.